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Is the man liable for hearing Kol Isha if the women sings by freewill? [closed]

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If a women is in a room with men she knows observes kol-isha, is she liable for her voice being heard or are the men liable for listening?


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    Are they mutually exclusive? - Copycat33Aug 03  '12 at 08:05
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1   to me it seems it would be the womans fault but lets see what the crew come up with. The men were there anyway, the song wasnt - disgruntledGoatAug 03  '12 at 09:09
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If she sings and they go out, then no one was Oiver anything. If they refuse to go out then it is their fault. It might not be nice of her but it is their decision in the end and only they will be punished.


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1   but she was still goirem them to be oiver - deepThinkerAug 03  '12 at 14:06
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    If it was a room with 2+ men, and a women came in and started singing knowing the men were present, who is punished? - TzeviAug 03  '12 at 22:19
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    @tzvi did the men go out straight away? Then they are definatly not punished. If they remained, then they are probably both punished - Yehuda HaMaccabiAug 04  '12 at 21:48
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    @YehudaHaMaccabi Frankly, your outlook on Yidishkeit is depressing. We don't do/don't do a Mitzvah, out of fear of punishment. Recognizing that the Torah could have been given to anyone, including Malachim, and Hashem chose us, thus creating a relationship. Therefor, out of appreciation, love, and thanks towards Hashem for his chesed, we put our best foot forward to do what Hashem wants. ( and yes if we transgress a Mitvah there are consequences, but that's not our motivation, and if it is OIY!) - yankelFeb 06  '14 at 03:56
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